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What are the relationships between monetization, sexualization and objectification?
What status do images of the body have with regard to their gratuitousness or not?
An iconography qualified as « fairy-trash », crossing mysticism and capitalism - in content density.

All the things that you do; 30’05’’

All the things that you do is a video of the first performance this group presented after the first lockdown. It was an IRL show streamed online. Since no public was allowed a camera device embedded in the performers was set up as an immersive way to broadcast the performance and propose a "live-archive. This work was written and performed in order to question the new social distancing rules that artists found particularly difficult for young people with non-normative sexualities. This work queries the contemporary point of view on nudity, censorship on social networks, but also the monetization of bodies. What are the differences between the paid body of a performance artist and the one of a sex worker? What are the relationships between monetization, sexualization and objectification? What status do images of the body have with regard to their gratuitousness or not? The artist uses the figure of animals, reminiscent of childhood games in her village which she considered as genderless, asexual, ageless beings, as cyborgs.


What is the language in common for the young people today?

I think the language in common for the young people today has something to do with speed. Something you decrypt as quickly as a meme or you dance as fast as speedcore music. And we all gather around Irony.

What does the process of making one of your pieces look like?

I spend a lot of time on the Internet, reading on topics linked to my work without making differences of value wether it comes from a shit post page or a theoretical book. I write, screenshot and save images. Then I start composing my artworks with this material. I also spend a lot of time with people around me to discuss, share and exchange.

Which challenges have you faced while making art as you know it?

A lot of my artworks contain nudity and as the Internet had become an important space to exhibit your work, I often face censorship issues. This is really problematic for me because I use nudity as a way to stand against sexualization and objectification of the bodies. When my work is censored it shows that some systems keep on sexualizing nudity, increasing control and repression. That also questions how « public » is the Internet place.

Do you consider yourself an artist, and what does that word mean to you?

I consider myself as being part of a group of artists, which includes my friends and other people I don't know. Together we all creates projects that influence each other ones. For me, an artist is more like a flow than an individual.

What is your escape from reality? Do you even have a need to escape from something?

I don't feel a need to escape from anything.

What does the word innovative mean to you?

For me "innovative" is related to a state of mind. It means not fixing your ideas on things in order to be ready to see changes when they arrive. Staying fluid in my thoughts helps me to analyze situations and accept ideas from others.

Do you have a plan for the future? Where can your artistic practice take you?

In Brussels where I live, we started to run an artist space in October 2020 called Atelier Saegher. We invite young artists to show their work and meet new practices. This collaborative way of making and exhibiting art is for me really important in the future. It gives you strength and shows you can also do things without the help of institutions, if you are together.

What made the biggest influence on you to become what you are today and do what you do now?

My friends have a lot of influence on me. I pay a lot of attention to their works and their critics on mine. I also really like to watch people's works in art schools. Those places aren't yet linked to an economical system and you can feel it in the work of most of the students. There is something more free and experimental in what they do.

How would you describe Serbian (Balkan or European-depends on where you live and work) contemporary cultural scene?

Esoterica internet, post-irony, group chat, content density.

In which way does your creative process shape you or changes you as a person, if it does at all?

My creative process is linked to the body and the being together, so it gives me empowerment and subversive power. Also I feel like the more I perform, the more political my works become. This too is probably due to situations some of the people I know go through and that I want to integrate in my process as a way of resisting.